Adaptors for EV charging systems are a bit problematic.
Firstly, because they are too expensive, the plugs and cables need to meet high standards and are not cheap items. An adaptor might cost a few hundred dollars. They are also at risk of being stolen whilst you charge, this isn’t just a problem because you lose your adaptor, it can also cause much more trouble, see below.
Secondly, because the chargers use charging protocols and have to be able to communicate with the cars. It's not just a case of having the wires fit into the holes. It's a bit like connecting a broadband router to the wrong sort of outlet. It isn't going to start offering you an internet connection. If the protocols are incompatible and the adaptor does not offer some sort of active translation between the car and CCS charger (adding greatly to the cost, and possibly requiring a battery on board too) then it is not going to initiate charging.
Thirdly adaptors are potentially dangerous. The Chademo connector locks onto the socket with a solenoid when charging begins. This ensures the 100 amps at 400v flowing through the plug and socket only flows when the connectors are in firm contact. When charging finishes the solenoid disengages and the plug can be removed. If you have an adaptor which does not have this same function, and you or anyone else can just walk up and pull the plug out, there will be arcs and sparks and potential damage or electrocution. 40kW is a lot of power to just be disconnecting without a care in the world. 220v mains plugs spark occasionally when connected and they are handling 3.3kW not 40kW.
So someone making an adaptor has to solve these problems, or they will be liable when the first person comes along to steal the adaptor and electrocutes themself.
Is it technically possible to have an adaptor between... [ https://www.speakev.com/threads/is-it-technically-possible-to-have-an-adaptor-between-ccs-and-chademo.129218/#post-2402108 ]
%3E The things that are particularly challenging are:
* Mechanical locking. For DC, you must have positive locking to prevent the connector being unplugged mid-charge. CHAdeMO has this in the plug, CCS has it in the car. Hence Tesla's adapter is easy in this respect - they already have a lock in the car, and the CHAdeMO plug provides a lock on the other side of the adapter, so the adapter doesn't need to do any locking. A CHAdeMO(car) to CCS(charger) adapter would need to provide two mechanical locks interlocked to the control protocol. * Voltage sequencing. Things need to be organized so that when contactors close to connect the charger to the battery the voltage on both sides is the same to avoid a sudden surge of current (potentially welding the contactor and at least wearing it out) when it closes. CHAdeMO and CCS do this in a different order - IIRC, CHAdeMO makes the battery voltage appear on the connector first and the charger observes that before matching its output; CCS expects the charger to output a matching voltage before closing the vehicle contactor. Tesla's adapter has to provide a circuit to generate 400V within the adapter to get the charger to start up. * Power for the adapter's internal electronics. CHAdeMO provides 12V power from the charger to the car with a useful amount of current - so an adapter can use that to power its internal electronics (and any solenoid locks etc.). An adapter in the other direction (CCS charger) has almost no power available on the connector until the protocol has advanced to the point that the battery voltage is available. Such an adapter would probably have to have its own internal battery (and then what do you do if it goes flat?). So it's not impossible, but not easy. An adapter in the CCS(car) to CHAdeMO(charger) direction is significantly easier than one in the other direction - and Tesla's adapter is in most respects equivalent to that easier case.
I’m one of those Leaf owners (I have two, actually). The CHAdeMO port was the thing that made me scratch my head the most (WHY???). And it forces the car to have two charging ports, instead of one combo port.
But I charge at home, and never need to use any sort of fast-chargers, so it has never actually bothered me. I only use my Level-1 charger, since my daily commute is only 20 miles; I’ve never even been tempted to install a 240-volt outlet for Level-2. But, if I thought I would have ever needed to fast-charge, I would have really thought about getting the Chevy Bolt instead.
Long story short - there’s not enough demand, and the price would be too high.
The market is moving towards CCS as a non-Tesla standard anyway, so there’s not a lot of point building one.
Tesla Supercharger networks of charging stations allow non-Tesla car owners to charge their Teslas at these stations! Want details about Tesla to CCS adapter, look for Mike Becker at EV adept.
An adapter does exist to allow a CCS or Chademo car to charge at a Tesla Supercharger. The adapter is made by a company called JuiceBox and it is called the Tesla-CCS Adapter.
The Tesla-CCS Adapter is a Level 2 EV charger that is compatible with both the Chademo and CCS standards. It has a maximum charging speed of 50kW and it can be used at any Tesla Supercharger.
No! First of all, that would be an extremely rude thing to do. You wait for the CCS user to come back and ask politely if he could use a different charger. You know, the same way you would if you wanted to use one of those pumps that pumps gas and diesel and you need diesel. It happened to me once and I had no problem going to the next pump to let the diesel user fill up. It’s called being civil. If that person is uncooperative, then just wait. And get used to it since CHAdeMO is being phased out. Never mess with another driver’s car!
Yes, and I’m very surprised they haven’t yet.
Everyone else (except Tesla) is already using the CCS plug. It’s a better design than CHAdeMO, it’s capable of faster charging and it’s becoming a near-universal standard for US charging stations. It also allows the charging port door on the car to be smaller, since the J1772 plug is incorporated into the CCS port itself rather than being a separate socket.
The Nissan Leaf is the only full EV available in the US that still uses CHAdeMO. There’s nothing inherently wrong with CHAdeMO as a standard, but the rest of the industry has moved on, and Nissan needs to take the hint.
I love my Model-SV, but when my lease is up (end of 2022) then I am upgrading to an SL.
To me, the big advantage is Pro-Pilot. I WANT Pro-Pilot, and I am willing to pay an extra $150/month to get it (which is basically the price difference between an SV and an SL).
And I want it in red, dammit. I had to settle for blue on my SV.
I also have a Model-S (silver). I would recommend the SV because of the advanced nav system. I don’t regret getting the SV instead of the SL, but I regret that I did not get two SVs for this lease cycle.
My three EVs charging in my driveway.
My only problem with the SL is that it does not come with the smaller (40 kWh) battery option, like my S/SV. You can get the same car in S+/SV+ with the larger 62 kWh battery, but 40 is plenty big enough for me, and I don’t like paying an extra $6600 and add 216 pounds to the weight of my car when I don’t need it.
Alas, I will suffer the larger battery to get ProPilot. I will never need my extra range, but I will use the HELL out of ProPilot.
It is very easy to calculate that: They will not.
All over the world there are more than 1 bn cars around at the moment. As far as I know the current production rate of cars right now is about 75 million cars per year. So, if all car manufacturers would stop making ICE cars by tomorrow (what they definitely will not do) and start making EVs at the same rate they used to make their ICE cars before (what they absolutely cannot do) it would take a whopping 15 years to make enough cars to replace all current ICE cars. Right now the worldwide sales of EV cars reach about 1% of the total car sales, so it will probably take another decade (at least), util the majority of all new cars made on earth are EVs.
Currently in Germany the average age of a car is some 8 years. The average price of a pre-owned car is about 12,000 USD. So it is not only a question of making millions and millions of cars, it is also a question of making them so cheap that even those can afford them who drive used cars right now. Currently I drive a car which cost me 5,000 USD four years ago. Even if Tesla would decide to lower the price of the Model 3 to 25,000 USD, I simply could not afford to buy one. I would have to wait until it is five or six years old.
Cars are not like smartphones, they are more expensive and they live longer. Just imagine houses: If somebody would invent a new, revolutionary housing technology, how long would it take to tear down all houses and rebuild them?
